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Adrian
May 20, 2021 8:42:31 GMT -6
Post by davidmorrocco on May 20, 2021 8:42:31 GMT -6
I wanted to know if when Adrian was the Costume designer on a movie if he was given a movie script and made the costumes that he thought would be best then had to have them them approved by the producer or director. Or could he created what he wanted and didn’t need any approval? I also wanted to know if he was temperamental or nice and never raised his voice. I never found the answers, but I did find the following on Wikipedia. Adrian was openly gay within the film community while Janet Gaynor, his wife was also gay or bisexual. Both Adrian and Gaynor went on record to say they were happily married, and they remained so until his death in 1959. Gaynor and Adrian had one son, Robin (born July 6, 1940). The original Adrian-designed ruby slippers used in The Wizard of Oz; now on display at the Smithsonian Adrian's costume designs for The Wizard of Oz (1939), L–R: Bert Lahr, Judy Garland, Ray Bolger, and Jack Haley. Adrian was brought to Hollywood in November 1924 by Rudolph Valentino's wife Natacha Rambova to design costumes for The Hooded Falcon. In 1925 Adrian was hired as a costume designer by Cecil B. DeMille's. independent film studio. In 1928 DeMille moved to Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, and Adrian was provisionally hired as a costume designer for M-G-M. After a few months, he signed a contract as head designer. He designed twenty-eight Crawford films. When Adrian emphasized Crawford's shoulders by designing outfits with shoulder pads, these created a trend. Adrian was famous for evening gown designs, a talent displayed in The Women. Though filmed in black and white, The Women includes a Technicolor fashion show of Adrian designs. Adrian insisted on the finest materials and workmanship for the execution of his designs, cultivating fabric manufacturers in Europe and New York. Adrian left MGM on September 5, 1941, to open his own fashion firm. Adrian was not terminated by MGM, nor did he resign; his three-year contract merely expired. In 1959 Adrian was hired to design costumes for the upcoming Broadway musical Camelot. While at work on this project in his studio, Adrian suffered a fatal heart attack. So, I never got my answers, but learned a lot that I never knew about Adrian.
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Adrian
May 20, 2021 17:42:42 GMT -6
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Post by tom on May 20, 2021 17:42:42 GMT -6
From what I can see, his first film with JC was Dream of Love,,which seems to be a lost film. Our Modern Maidens is his first pairing for a film that is extant.
Off topic, but speaking of designers, what happened to Erte? They made a big deal about him in the 1925 MGM studio tour film, including clothing a "find" named Lucille LeSueur, and then he seems to have had a short stay at MGM.
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Adrian
May 21, 2021 7:45:41 GMT -6
Post by davidmorrocco on May 21, 2021 7:45:41 GMT -6
I’m not sure what happened to Erte? We’ll have to do a little more detective work. I was watching a Netflix series on the fashion designer Halston. I read so much about him in “The Andy Warhol Diaries.” (Great book.) That’s what got me thinking about what it must have been like to work with Adrian. I wanted to learn more about his work ethic and attitude. Perhaps one day someone will make a documentary of Adrian. Here’s to fashion and Adrian ! 🥂
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Post by tom on May 21, 2021 19:40:20 GMT -6
I’m not sure what happened to Erte? We’ll have to do a little more detective work. I was watching a Netflix series on the fashion designer Halston. I read so much about him in “The Andy Warhol Diaries.” (Great book.) That’s what got me thinking about what it must have been like to work with Adrian. I wanted to learn more about his work ethic and attitude. Perhaps one day someone will make a documentary of Adrian. Here’s to fashion and Adrian ! 🥂 That'd be a great documentary. I got a few hits on YouTube for Adrian but have not had a chance to look at them yet. I read that some speculated his marriage to Janet Gaynor was a lavender marriage for both. Crazy the stuff that people had to go through back then to have a career. Makes you appreciate the cajones that Billie Haines had to stand by Jimmie Shields. A couple of Erte hits from YouTube.... T |
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Adrian
May 22, 2021 14:17:36 GMT -6
Post by davidmorrocco on May 22, 2021 14:17:36 GMT -6
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Adrian
May 22, 2021 14:20:18 GMT -6
Post by davidmorrocco on May 22, 2021 14:20:18 GMT -6
I totally forgot that I had it. So I’ll have to look through it again. I’m so glad that I remembered.
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Adrian
May 22, 2021 15:07:16 GMT -6
Post by tom on May 22, 2021 15:07:16 GMT -6
Sweet! I watched a few of those YouTube videos, and I never put 2 & 2 together on the Art deco alphabet - which I remember having seen pictures of - and Erte. www.erte.us/uploads/1/2/5/1/12510469/d_orig.jpgIt's also nice to hear that when there was a resurgence of interest in Art Deco in the 60s, that Erte was "re-discovered" and there was greater appreciation for his works. |
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Post by tom on May 22, 2021 15:11:02 GMT -6
Also, Erte with one of his greatest creations, Lucille LeSeuer! ertelove.tumblr.comMGM was worried about her name, they should have been more worried about that hair-do! |
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Post by tom on May 22, 2021 19:21:58 GMT -6
This is the best doc that I've found thus far on Adrian on YouTube. Not enough JC in it!  |
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Adrian
May 24, 2021 7:29:15 GMT -6
Post by davidmorrocco on May 24, 2021 7:29:15 GMT -6
Great video clips of Adrian’s life and work. Thanks so much. Plus it mentions a book on Adrian that I’ll check out on Amazon. Thanks Tom
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Post by tom on May 24, 2021 15:36:19 GMT -6
Great video clips of Adrian’s life and work. Thanks so much. Plus it mentions a book on Adrian that I’ll check out on Amazon. Thanks Tom My pleasure. I have had good luck with Abe Books, and good prices if you don't mind them used. I am currently reading "Proud Flesh" which is the book upon which the 1925 movie starring Eleanor Boardman - in which JC has a bit part - appears. I found it on Abe Books for about 10 bucks total, including shipping. It's totally different from the movie! |
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Adrian
May 25, 2021 12:18:49 GMT -6
Post by davidmorrocco on May 25, 2021 12:18:49 GMT -6
I’m not sure what happened to Erte? We’ll have to do a little more detective work. I was watching a Netflix series on the fashion designer Halston. I read so much about him in “The Andy Warhol Diaries.” (Great book.) That’s what got me thinking about what it must have been like to work with Adrian. I wanted to learn more about his work ethic and attitude. Perhaps one day someone will make a documentary of Adrian. Here’s to fashion and Adrian ! 🥂 That'd be a great documentary. I got a few hits on YouTube for Adrian but have not had a chance to look at them yet. I read that some speculated his marriage to Janet Gaynor was a lavender marriage for both. Crazy the stuff that people had to go through back then to have a career. Makes you appreciate the cajones that Billie Haines had to stand by Jimmie Shields. A couple of Erte hits from YouTube.... T |
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Adrian
May 25, 2021 12:31:31 GMT -6
Post by davidmorrocco on May 25, 2021 12:31:31 GMT -6
I was reading that Erte was born in 1892 in Russia and lived until 1990 and passed away in Paris at 97 years old. Can you even begin to imagine everything he lived through? All the technology he saw in his lifetime from the horse and buggy to cars and indoor toilets and electricity and radio and TV, microwave ovens, computers and everything else you can think of. Unbelievable!
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Adrian
May 30, 2021 17:32:09 GMT -6
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Post by tom on May 30, 2021 17:32:09 GMT -6
I was reading that Erte was born in 1892 in Russia and lived until 1990 and passed away in Paris at 97 years old. Can you even begin to imagine everything he lived through? All the technology he saw in his lifetime from the horse and buggy to cars and indoor toilets and electricity and radio and TV, microwave ovens, computers and everything else you can think of. Unbelievable! I was reading up on Erich von Stroheim after watching Sunset Boulevard and also watching a whole mess of Gloria Swanson movies (she's awesome by the way! JC said GS was her hero IIRC). Stroheim said, per IMDB... If you live in France and you have written one good book, or painted one good picture, or directed one outstanding film, 50 years ago, and nothing ever since, you are still recognized as an artist and honored accordingly ... In Hollywood - in Hollywood, you're as good as your last picture. If you didn't have one in production in the last three months, you're forgotten, no matter what you have achieved ere this. It is that terrific, unfortunately necessary, egotism in the makeup of the people who make the cinema, it is the continuous endeavor for recognition, that continuous struggle for survival and supremacy, among the newcomers, that relegates the old-timers to the ashcan. How true! Makes me glad that folks like Erte and Adrian and JC and many others, who'd be largely forgotten, are still recognized and honored thanks to the Internet. |
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Adrian
Jun 1, 2021 8:02:21 GMT -6
Post by davidmorrocco on Jun 1, 2021 8:02:21 GMT -6
I love Sunset Boulevard. I have it on DVD. They asked Billy Haines to play a part of wax work people that come to Norma Desmond’s house to play cards, but he turned it down. The wax work actors are older Hollywood stars from the silent movie days. Joan learned from Gloria that you should not only answer your fan club mail, but make a list of who they are and a note of what they wrote and when they wrote it. Also include names of family, friends and even their pet. I bet that kept Betty Barker very busy. It was also great advice for Joan.
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