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Post by tom on Sept 2, 2021 17:46:18 GMT -6
OK, I've succumbed to peer pressure and am going to watch a JC flick post-MGM days. In large part due to a rousing sales job by the folks at TCM's Noir Alley.
Oh yeah, and because Joan looks like a million dang dollars in this picture!
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Post by tom on Sept 2, 2021 17:49:14 GMT -6
This is the intro by Eddie Muller that I ref'd in the previous post.
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Post by tom on Sept 2, 2021 18:26:30 GMT -6
Joanie's character kind of reminds me of a more mature version of Barbara Stanwyck's character in the pre-code classic, Baby Face. Using men to get what she wants. JC looks great, so you can't blame the boys for following her down the primrose path to perdition.
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Post by tom on Sept 2, 2021 18:48:06 GMT -6
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Post by tom on Sept 2, 2021 19:35:38 GMT -6
Love this line that I saw online, IMDB.
Ethel is Joan's character.
According to the DVD cover, Ethel Whitehead is "as tempting as a cupcake and as tough as a 75-cent steak."
I cannot lie, I do love me some cupcakes and cheap steaks! 😃
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Post by Admin on Sept 7, 2021 20:06:51 GMT -6
OK, I've succumbed to peer pressure and am going to watch a JC flick post-MGM days. In large part due to a rousing sales job by the folks at TCM's Noir Alley. Oh yeah, and because Joan looks like a million dang dollars in this picture! Surely you've seen Joan movies post-MGM! Mueller's video was interesting; mostly positive, but still the semi-apology for "Damned" featuring not a typical noir "femme fatale" but rather an "homme fatale"---that's Joan's MO in many a post-MGM film noir ("Possessed," "Sudden Fear"). And then there's the western genre---and we all know what she insisted on doing with THAT!  Something for film scholars to take a look at |
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Post by Admin on Sept 7, 2021 20:13:31 GMT -6
Love this line that I saw online, IMDB. Ethel is Joan's character. According to the DVD cover, Ethel Whitehead is "as tempting as a cupcake and as tough as a 75-cent steak." I cannot lie, I do love me some cupcakes and cheap steaks! 😃  "Call me CHEAP?" Nothing's cheap when you pay the price she's paying! |
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Post by tom on Sept 8, 2021 13:30:26 GMT -6
Love this line that I saw online, IMDB. Ethel is Joan's character. According to the DVD cover, Ethel Whitehead is "as tempting as a cupcake and as tough as a 75-cent steak." I cannot lie, I do love me some cupcakes and cheap steaks! 😃 "Call me CHEAP?" Nothing's cheap when you pay the price she's paying! Lol. I like that line as well! T |
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Post by tom on Sept 8, 2021 13:47:56 GMT -6
OK, I've succumbed to peer pressure and am going to watch a JC flick post-MGM days. In large part due to a rousing sales job by the folks at TCM's Noir Alley. Oh yeah, and because Joan looks like a million dang dollars in this picture! Surely you've seen Joan movies post-MGM! Mueller's video was interesting; mostly positive, but still the semi-apology for "Damned" featuring not a typical noir "femme fatale" but rather an "homme fatale"---that's Joan's MO in many a post-MGM film noir ("Possessed," "Sudden Fear"). And then there's the western genre---and we all know what she insisted on doing with THAT! Something for film scholars to take a look at Actually, only 2! Damned (last week) & Baby Jane (a zillion years ago; it was on TV). I'm all about silent Joan, jazz baby JC and the 30s shop girl Joan. I know it's a tad overly specific, but her transformation from San Antonio urchin to NYC chorus girl to the Queen of Hollywood is the part of her incredible life story that just fascinates me. I just wish that so many of her 20s films weren't lost or effectively lost. For her later career, I find Joan to be more interesting as person than as an actress if that makes sense. Her devotion to her fans. Her willingness to change genres as tastes changed. Her desire to remain a star at a time when the studios just seemed to want any actress over 30 to go away or get cast in bit parts as someone's mother. |
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Post by Admin on Sept 12, 2021 0:17:57 GMT -6
Surely you've seen Joan movies post-MGM! Mueller's video was interesting; mostly positive, but still the semi-apology for "Damned" featuring not a typical noir "femme fatale" but rather an "homme fatale"---that's Joan's MO in many a post-MGM film noir ("Possessed," "Sudden Fear"). And then there's the western genre---and we all know what she insisted on doing with THAT! Something for film scholars to take a look at Actually, only 2! Damned (last week) & Baby Jane (a zillion years ago; it was on TV). I'm all about silent Joan, jazz baby JC and the 30s shop girl Joan. I know it's a tad overly specific, but her transformation from San Antonio urchin to NYC chorus girl to the Queen of Hollywood is the part of her incredible life story that just fascinates me. I just wish that so many of her 20s films weren't lost or effectively lost. For her later career, I find Joan to be more interesting as person than as an actress if that makes sense. Her devotion to her fans. Her willingness to change genres as tastes changed. Her desire to remain a star at a time when the studios just seemed to want any actress over 30 to go away or get cast in bit parts as someone's mother. Tom! PLEASE try to see the following post-MGM films at some point: Humoresque, Possessed ('47), Flamingo Road, Harriet Craig, Sudden Fear, Johnny Guitar, Female on the Beach, Autumn Leaves. (Especially "Sudden Fear" and "Johnny" and "Autumn.") A real actress, not just a "pretty girl." Her post-MGM films are so much more interesting. |
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Post by tom on Sept 12, 2021 20:42:01 GMT -6
^ Interesting that you didn't name Mildred Pierce in your list! 😃
In truth, I haven't really seen too many movies made after the late 1940s, JC's or any for that matter.
But, I promise to do better!
Johnny Guitar is the one that I've been most intrigued by in your list.
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Post by Admin on Sept 13, 2021 20:54:37 GMT -6
^ Interesting that you didn't name Mildred Pierce in your list! 😃 In truth, I haven't really seen too many movies made after the late 1940s, JC's or any for that matter. But, I promise to do better! Johnny Guitar is the one that I've been most intrigued by in your list. I have never been a huge "Mildred" fan. I think it's a good, solid film. But not a "fan-maker" to someone who's not particularly interested in Joan's post-MGM films! (She's very good, but not great, in it.) But post-MGM: PLEASE see "Sudden Fear" (1952) and "Johnny Guitar" (1954)! I beg you! I just re-joined Netflix---their old-fashioned mail-the-DVD service, not streaming. One thing I'm taking advantage of is looking at a list of Best Picture Oscar winners and putting all of those films in my queue... Don't know if you're a Netflix subscriber, but there are many Joan films available there. Trying to figure out ways that you can see "Fear" and "Johnny"! |
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Post by tom on Sept 14, 2021 17:22:39 GMT -6
^ Interesting that you didn't name Mildred Pierce in your list! 😃 In truth, I haven't really seen too many movies made after the late 1940s, JC's or any for that matter. But, I promise to do better! Johnny Guitar is the one that I've been most intrigued by in your list. I have never been a huge "Mildred" fan. I think it's a good, solid film. But not a "fan-maker" to someone who's not particularly interested in Joan's post-MGM films! (She's very good, but not great, in it.) But post-MGM: PLEASE see "Sudden Fear" (1952) and "Johnny Guitar" (1954)! I beg you! I just re-joined Netflix---their old-fashioned mail-the-DVD service, not streaming. One thing I'm taking advantage of is looking at a list of Best Picture Oscar winners and putting all of those films in my queue... Don't know if you're a Netflix subscriber, but there are many Joan films available there. Trying to figure out ways that you can see "Fear" and "Johnny"! Johnny Guitar is on Amazon Prime. We may have a winner! 😃 |
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Post by tom on Nov 15, 2021 19:59:17 GMT -6
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Post by davidmorrocco on Nov 16, 2021 1:01:00 GMT -6
Hey Tom
Thanks so my for the very clip on the forever changing scenes and areas of Joan. You always find the best.
I love Joan in both Pre and Post and MGM areas.
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Something for film scholars to take a look at
