Joan's niece

[yvo]

Does anyone have any information on "little" Joan, Joan's niece; Joan LeSueur?

[Admin]

Nov 5, 2020 5:32:39 GMT -6 yvo said:

Does anyone have any information on "little" Joan, Joan's niece; Joan LeSueur?

I found this info about "Joanie" on Hal LeSueur's Wikipedia entry:
His second wife was Kasha Haroldi (March 31, 1907 – June 26, 1992). Hal and Kasha married in Santa Ana, California on September 16, 1931, with Hal's age given as 30. They had one child, a daughter, named Joan Crawford LeSueur (December 2, 1933 – December 15, 1999), who was named after Hal's sister and became a dancer on Broadway, known professionally as Joan Lowe. Kasha and Hal LeSueur divorced in 1935. She won custody of their daughter. She remarried and became Mrs. Kasha Lowe; her daughter became Joan Lowe, the name by which she was known professionally, later Mrs. Joan Fowler.

Here's Joan Lowe Fowler's findadeath entry: www.findagrave.com/memorial/159551942/joan-crawford-fowler

[yvo]

Seems she had no children, at least they're not mentioned on findagrave.. Guess LeSueur women don't live that long; approaching my 40s anything under 80 seems young

[davidmorrocco]

I was watching “The Fued” last night. Joan told Bette that Joan lost her virginity at 11 years old to her mother’s 2nd husband Henry Cassin. She said it wasn’t like they were blood relatives and that Joan loved him. Do you think it could be true? I kind of do think it’s true due to books I’ve read in the past. What do you think? I hope Joan’s brother Hal never tried anything like that with his sister Joan.

[Admin]

Nov 22, 2020 15:32:13 GMT -6 davidmorrocco said:

I was watching “The Fued” last night. Joan told Bette that Joan lost her virginity at 11 years old to her mother’s 2nd husband Henry Cassin. She said it wasn’t like they were blood relatives and that Joan loved him. Do you think it could be true? I kind of do think it’s true due to books I’ve read in the past. What do you think? I hope Joan’s brother Hal never tried anything like that with his sister Joan.

A quote from the 2002 Quirk/Schoell book, listed in the book's References as from an interview of Joan's with Lawrence J. Quirk, quotes Joan as saying re sleeping with her stepfather at age 11: "It wasn't incest. We weren't even related. He was gentle and kind and I led him into it."

I thought "Feud" was terribly done, but I see exactly where it found the incest idea---from the Quirk/Schoell "Essential Biography." True? I don't know how reliable Quirk is. Were he and Joan so close that she would actually talk about something like that with him? Seems kind of odd. Based on Joan's highly sexualized behavior throughout her life, though, it seems possible. RE Joan and brother Hal: I hate to relay anything without a source, but I can't find it now: Hal claimed (somewhere) that Joan (Billie) tried to engage him in sexual play. Again, given the fact that Hal was a creepy loser, I don't know how accurate his claim is.