Your favorite Joan husband or hook-up

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Vote for your favorite Joan husband or hook-up.

[yvo]

Has to be Gable, right? They were so similar..
Why isn’t Barbara Stanwyck on the list?
I also remember reading she had a tumultuous relationship with Glenn Ford, notorious lady’s man..
P.S. I love that story of her driving drunk to a director’s house to yell about Marilyn after she died

[davidmorrocco]

Clark Gable was “The King.” Joans words from NYC town hall speech.

[jack]

It’s Al Steele for me, sentimental romantic I am. He seemed to me to be so totally dedicated to Miss Crawford and gave the most stability she’d ever had from a relationship.

[Admin]

Oct 22, 2020 5:16:28 GMT -6 yvo said:

Has to be Gable, right? They were so similar..
Why isn’t Barbara Stanwyck on the list?
I also remember reading she had a tumultuous relationship with Glenn Ford, notorious lady’s man..
P.S. I love that story of her driving drunk to a director’s house to yell about Marilyn after she died

I just now voted and picked Al Steele. Not a "sexy" choice (!), but I don't think the sexy Joan-n-Clark would've lasted very long. One reason: Joan was kind of (!) a control freak, and I don't think Clark would've/could've put up with that too long on a day-to-day basis... Big Al, on the other hand, I think was the best match 'cause he, unlike fellow actors, was secure in his position---and as current President of Pepsi, he was MORE powerful than Joan was at the time, since her star was slightly on the down-swing as she aged. So with Steele, she had the powerful man she could look up to a bit AND be a help-meet to and feel useful; and then simultaneously I'm sure Al was completely worshipful of her glamorous self---a decade or so earlier, she would have been WAY out of his league!

I thought about adding Stanwyck to the list, but finally limited the women to those who had actually TOLD someone they'd slept with Joan: MM her psychiatrist, and Martha Raye in her published bio. (Aside from Stanwyck, I also think Dietrich is a good candidate for "probably" slept with.)

Re Glenn Ford: I love this quote about the girdle, from the "Glenn Ford: A Life in Film" bio:

The Ford-Crawford friendship was indeed a bit more intimate than either star admitted publicly at the time. "Joan and I had a brief affair," Glenn admits today. "It was never serious, but we did enjoy each other's company for a while. One evening up in her bedroom, we had a bottle of champagne, and she said 'You can make love to me if you can get my girdle off.' So I began struggling to remove this stubborn, rubber foundation garment. It was so tight, it took quite a while. She wouldn't move, wouldn't help me at all. Finally, it came off...almost threw me across the room!" The Crawford fling burned out quickly. "She was too powerful for me to be in love with," Glenn says. "She was very much sufficient unto herself."

I also thought about adding co-stars like Ford and John Ireland, et al, to the list, but that list would have probably gone on a bit too long! (Jackie Cooper I added just to be quirky.)

Oh, and here's the quote (from "Divine Feud") about Joan's going to director George Cukor's house on the evening of Monroe's death. When Cukor asked why she was so upset, since she'd never liked Monroe, Joan answered:

You're right. She was cheap, an exhibitionist. She was never a professional, and that irritated the hell out of people. But, for God's sake, she needed help. She had all these people on her payroll. Where the hell were they when she needed them? Why in hell did she have to die alone?

[Admin]

Oct 22, 2020 7:40:18 GMT -6 davidmorrocco said:

Clark Gable was “The King.” Joans words from NYC town hall speech.

I agree that she both loved him most AND had the best sexual relationship with him. But, personally, I think it was probably the most mature choice that both of them made to call it quits when LB Mayer told them to. Mayer could have ruined their careers, and thus their lives...They were both hard-headed realists and made the smart career decision. (Had they made the "Romeo and Juliet" decision, do you think they would've been happy after a couple of years?)

[Admin]

Oct 25, 2020 14:03:26 GMT -6 jack said:

It’s Al Steele for me, sentimental romantic I am. He seemed to me to be so totally dedicated to Miss Crawford and gave the most stability she’d ever had from a relationship.

Steele was the one that I also just now voted for. See my above post for reasons (like you, I think he was strong, stable, and dedicated to her).

[TJ]

Well, let me put it this way: The one true love that never died, the one devotion that never failed Our Miss C was the love of her fans. So, metaphorically speaking, the only hook-up/partner/lover/soul-mate always faithful and always true to her was her "Fans". Each of them loved her dearly and was loved back unconditionally. That what I call a match made in heaven.

[Admin]

Oct 29, 2020 9:49:55 GMT -6 TJ said:

Well, let me put it this way: The one true love that never died, the one devotion that never failed Our Miss C was the love of her fans. So, metaphorically speaking, the only hook-up/partner/lover/soul-mate always faithful and always true to her was her "Fans". Each of them loved her dearly and was loved back unconditionally. That what I call a match made in heaven.

YES! I should have added "Fans" as an option. Oh, and "The Camera"! Here's a good quote from George Cukor's eulogy for Joan, given in May 1977:

In the days before zoom lenses and advanced electronics, cameras often had to be mounted on great cumbersome cranes, maneuvered by as many as twelve men, and close-ups might well require all this to be pushed from extreme long shots to within a few inches of an actor's face. Many found it difficult to overcome some understandable nervousness as this juggernaut ground closer and closer. Not Joan Crawford. The nearer the camera, the more tender and yielding she became---her eyes glistening, her lips avid in ecstatic acceptance. The camera saw, I suspect, a side of her that no flesh-and-blood lover ever saw.

Read the full Cukor tribute: www.joancrawfordbest.com/cukortribute.htm

[ketvo]

joan was too good for gable i dont see any good in him i dont know why people like him. steele i dislike not to the standard of joan

Tone, suited her. it's disapointing it did't workk out, awesome she got back with him in the end.

[tom]

Oct 22, 2020 5:16:28 GMT -6 yvo said:

Has to be Gable, right? They were so similar..
Why isn’t Barbara Stanwyck on the list?
I also remember reading she had a tumultuous relationship with Glenn Ford, notorious lady’s man..
P.S. I love that story of her driving drunk to a director’s house to yell about Marilyn after she died

LOL. So funny. I just heard the BS rumor for the first time today! JC & Sexy Stany!
BS might be the only one to rival Gable for star power during the Golden Age of cinema.

Sentimental vote is for Gable, but, yeah, that likely would not have lasted long.
The flame that burns hottest, dies the fastest, or so the old saying goes.

I think with Steele she finally got it right. Successful man, but not in show biz.

T

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